Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124

02/15/2023 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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03:16:07 PM Start
03:16:40 PM Presentation(s): Overview from State of Alaska Broadband
03:52:17 PM Adjourn
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Broadband by Thomas Lochner, Director
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                       February 15, 2023                                                                                        
                           3:16 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jesse Sumner, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Stanley Wright                                                                                                   
Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                                   
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Vice Chair                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): OVERVIEW FROM STATE OF ALASKA BROADBAND                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS LOCHNER, Director                                                                                                        
Alaska Broadband Office                                                                                                         
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a PowerPoint presentation titled                                                                    
"Alaska Broadband Office Update."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:16:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JESSE SUMNER  called the House Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at  3:16 p.m.   Representatives Prax,                                                               
Carrick,  and  Sumner   were  present  at  the   call  to  order.                                                               
Representatives  Wright,  Saddler,  and  Fields  arrived  as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): OVERVIEW FROM STATE OF ALASKA BROADBAND                                                                       
    PRESENTATION(S): OVERVIEW FROM STATE OF ALASKA BROADBAND                                                                
                                                                                                                              
3:16:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
a   presentation,  titled   "Overview   from   State  of   Alaska                                                               
Broadband."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:17:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS LOCHNER, Director, Alaska  Office of Broadband, Department                                                               
of  Commerce,  Community,  and Economic  Development,  began  his                                                               
PowerPoint  [hard  copy included  in  the  committee packet]  and                                                               
stated  that  the  Alaska  Office  of  Broadband  was  formed  in                                                               
September of 2022.  He continued  to slide 2 and gave an overview                                                               
of the department hierarchy and  positions.  The office currently                                                               
has  three of  its four  positions filled  and is  continuing its                                                               
work in setting  up and becoming effective.  On  slide 3, he gave                                                               
a brief overview of the  Broadband Advisory Board, which includes                                                               
members of  the public, government  officials, and  various other                                                               
representatives  from  different  parts of  Alaska  business  and                                                               
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOCHNER continued  to slides  4 and  5 and  stated that  the                                                               
majority  of funding  for the  Alaska Office  of Broadband  would                                                               
come from  the Infrastructure Investment  and Jobs Act,  with $42                                                               
billion  being   allocated  to  broadband  equity,   access,  and                                                               
deployment (BEAD) throughout  the United States.   He stated that                                                               
the money  will go  to the  states for usage  in grants  to build                                                               
broadband infrastructure  in areas  without access  to broadband.                                                               
He stated  that the Infrastructure  Investment and Jobs  Act also                                                               
allocated $640  million for administrative costs  associated with                                                               
the  set-up of  programs  and offices  needed  to administer  the                                                               
grants.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:21:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER  moved to  slide 6  and gave  an overview  of digital                                                               
equity,  inclusion,  and literacy.    There  are three  types  of                                                               
grants  coming  from the  federal  government  to work  on  these                                                               
issues:  planning, capacity,  and  competitive grants.   He  said                                                               
that Alaska  has been  awarded a grant  of $567,800  for planning                                                               
and that  the latter  two grant  awards are  pending.   He stated                                                               
that the grants  are focused on helping populations  who may have                                                               
less access or ability to  navigate an increasingly digital world                                                               
overcome  those obstacles.  He  gave an  example  of how  someone                                                               
being released  from incarceration  now after  20 years  would be                                                               
met  with many  types of  technology that  they have  had yet  to                                                               
experience.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER  continued with slide 7  and gave an overview  of the                                                               
funding  and  disbursement of  the  allocated  $42 billion.    He                                                               
stated that there would be  a minimum $100 million allocation for                                                               
all  50 states,  and  10  percent of  the  $42  billion would  be                                                               
allocated  for  "high cost"  areas  in  the  U.S.   He  gave  the                                                               
definitions of service for broadband  in relation to download and                                                               
upload  speeds: unserved  is less  than 25  megabytes per  second                                                               
(Mbps) download and  3 Mbps upload, and underserved  is less than                                                               
100 Mbps download and 20 Mbps upload.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:23:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER continued to slide 8  and provided a timeline for the                                                               
grants and  funding plans.   He stated that the  Alaska Broadband                                                               
Office must  submit a  5-year action  plan, an  initial proposal,                                                               
and  a  final proposal  to  the  National Telecommunications  and                                                               
Information  Administration.   The goal  of the  Alaska Broadband                                                               
Office is  to have the plans  ready by June 15th,  July 31st, and                                                               
November 30th, respectively.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:26:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER  continued to  slides 9  through 16,  reiterating the                                                               
definitions  of broadband  access and  showing several  maps with                                                               
evaluations  on the  current status  of broadband  across Alaska.                                                               
He  stated that  28.9 percent  of  communities in  the state  are                                                               
served.    All  communities  served by  broadband  are  on  fiber                                                               
systems.  He said that the  current microwave systems do not meet                                                               
the  threshold of  100 over  20  Mbps required  to be  considered                                                               
served.  He continued that  the federal government is involved in                                                               
bringing   broadband  to   another  20.6   percent  of   Alaska's                                                               
communities through programs such  as United States Department of                                                               
Agriculture   (USDA)    Connect   Program   and    the   National                                                               
Telecommunications  and   Information  Administration's  (NTIA's)                                                               
Tribal Broadband  Connectivity Program.  After  the completion of                                                               
those projects,  50.6 percent of Alaska's  communities will still                                                               
be under or unserved.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:29:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOCHNER moved  to slides  17 through  19, showing  maps with                                                               
possible  layouts for  broadband projects  that would  reduce the                                                               
number of  communities not  being served by  broadband.   He said                                                               
the  plans  have  been  published   online  so  that  the  Alaska                                                               
Broadband  Office  can  receive  feedback on  the  most  accurate                                                               
places to lay down the broadband lines.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER  continued to  slides 20 and  21, outlining  the next                                                               
steps for  the 5-year  action plan.   He  stated that  the Alaska                                                               
Broadband  Office broke  down the  requirements into  three broad                                                               
categories:  Outreach, Network,  and Logistics.   The  office has                                                               
completed 40, 60,  and 70 percent of its goal  for each category,                                                               
respectively.  He  said that the primary grant  criteria is worth                                                               
75 percent  of the score  for the Notice of  Funding Opportunity,                                                               
which includes  efficient use of BEAD  funding, affordability for                                                               
consumers, and fair  labor practices.  The  secondary criteria is                                                               
whether  the  project  will  be  completed  on  time,  and  other                                                               
criteria   include  network   design,  operating   costs,  Native                                                               
bidders, and carrier neutral and fair pricing practices.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:34:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS asked  if there would be  any solutions for                                                               
parts of urban areas experiencing  speeds lower than the category                                                               
the  community is  considered  to be  for  purposes of  broadband                                                               
deployment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER answered  that a particular location  within a served                                                               
area receiving  lower than  slow speeds would  still be  lower on                                                               
the list  for funding due  to the  location still being  within a                                                               
served community.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  asked  if  there  was  any  data  showing                                                               
disconnect between  the speeds that  certain people  within urban                                                               
communities   experience  versus   the  speeds   that  they   are                                                               
theoretically supposed to experience.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOCHNER answered  that  the Alaska  Broadband  Office has  a                                                               
speed  test available  on  its  website and  it  wants people  to                                                               
submit their results so that it can collect such data.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:37:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT  asked if the  BEAD funding was  a one-time                                                               
grant or if it would be recurring.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER  answered that the  BEAD funding is a  one-time grant                                                               
as a part of the Infrastructure  Investment and Jobs Act, as well                                                               
as the  grants from  USDA and  NTIA.  He  added that  the Federal                                                               
Communications  Commission (FCC)  does provide  recurring grants.                                                               
In response  to a follow-up question,  he said that he  is unsure                                                               
whether the  federal funding will  be enough to cover  the entire                                                               
cost of the planned projects.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT asked whether  there would be opportunities                                                               
for matched funding from different municipalities.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOCHNER  answered that  the  Notice  of Funding  Opportunity                                                               
requires a  25 percent match,  although for some  rural high-cost                                                               
locations that match requirement is waived.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:39:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX asked  if  it was  correct  that the  Alaska                                                               
Broadband Office  planned to use  both fiber optic  and microwave                                                               
cables.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOCHNER answered  that the  office is  "technology agnostic"                                                               
but  must  meet  certain  speed and  latency  requirements.    In                                                               
response to  Representative Prax's  concern about  spending money                                                               
on a technology that could  become quickly outdated, he said that                                                               
the office is developing an "operations and maintenance" model.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked what the  permitting process for laying                                                               
down fiber optic cables would look like.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOCHNER  answered  that  he  is  working  closely  with  the                                                               
Department  of  Natural  Resources  to  ensure  that  the  Alaska                                                               
Broadband Office  has the necessary permitting  for whatever type                                                               
of land the fiber optic cables go across.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:45:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  asked if  the  BEAD  funding was  solely                                                               
targeted at the "covered populations" listed on slide 6.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOCHNER  answered  that  the   projects  would  benefit  all                                                               
Alaskans.  In response to a  follow-up question, he said that the                                                               
focus of  the funding  was making sure  that all  communities are                                                               
covered  regardless of  their population,  with  the caveat  that                                                               
each project would need to be sustainable.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked why  satellite Internet was  not on                                                               
the provided maps  as a consideration for  providing broadband to                                                               
Alaska communities.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER  answered that  geosynchronous satellites  are unable                                                               
to meet  the federal government's speed  or latency requirements.                                                               
He added  that low Earth orbit  satellites such as the  ones used                                                               
by Starlink also  do not meet these standards,  although they are                                                               
a useful stopgap.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:48:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT asked if there would  be a point in time at                                                               
which Starlink  would be able to  provide 1 gigabyte (GB)  over 1                                                               
GB speeds.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER  answered Starlink is  "magical" for those  that have                                                               
previously  been   without  any  type  of   Internet  previously,                                                               
although  it does  have several  limitations.   In response  to a                                                               
follow-up question,  he said  that the project  would have  to be                                                               
completed   within  four   years  to   keep  funding,   with  the                                                               
possibility of a one-year extension.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:50:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SUMNER  asked how much  money the federal  government would                                                               
allocate to Alaska for the purpose of building broadband.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOCHNER answered that it is too early to know for sure.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:51:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked whether it would make sense for the                                                                
State  of  Alaska to  wait  until  satellite Internet  technology                                                               
improves before making investments  in broadband for rural Alaska                                                               
in order to lower the cost.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LOCHNER  responded that  in  order  to receive  the  federal                                                               
funding,  the  state  must  do what  the  federal  government  is                                                               
incentivizing the state to do.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:52:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Labor and Commerce Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:52 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Alaska Broadband Office Presentation H L&C 02-15-23.pdf HL&C 2/15/2023 3:15:00 PM